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Topic: The Mad Music Show goes streaming-only, no more podcasts!

Started by: Captain Wayne

peterpuck9   Offline  -  Participant  -  06-10-08 01:57 PM  -  10 years ago
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I use Winamp. No problem so far.
soweird   Offline  -  Donator  -  06-10-08 01:08 PM  -  10 years ago
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I use REALPLAYER 11.
Stavro Arrgolus   Online  -  Editor, MP3  -  06-10-08 10:17 AM  -  10 years ago
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Or you could just use Winamp...and possibly FireFox as well.


>>If you can't get your web browser to handle the M3U stream, you might try saving the M3U to your hard drive and then loading it into your media player.
ChicagoBoy   Offline  -  Member  -  06-10-08 08:33 AM  -  10 years ago
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If you can't get your web browser to handle the M3U stream, you might try saving the M3U to your hard drive and then loading it into your media player.
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I just tried that for all show segments for show #113. When I double-clicked on any of the MP3 files on my hard drive, Windows Media Player 9 gave me this error: "Unable to initialize a file".

Do you or anyone else here have an idea of why this is happening, and how to get around it?

ChicagoBoy
Halgar   Offline  -  Member  -  05-18-08 11:54 PM  -  10 years ago
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I'll listen to streaming and like it then.
Captain Wayne   Offline  -  Site Owner  -  05-18-08 05:53 PM  -  10 years ago
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Technically I could - if I had permission from each of those 16 artists or their record label. The problem there is time - time to contact and get sign-offs on all of the songs. Then, to do the accounting and send the checks to those artists/labels and the Harry Fox Agency on a regular basis.

Frankly the legal department and the accounting department here (both of which are me) doesn't have the free time to pursue this right now. With:

50 hours a week work
12 hours a week commuting
10 hours a week producting the Mad Music Show
10 hours a week volunteering in the community
10 hours a week doing upkeep on the site

leaves very little for house cleaning, laundry, yardwork, bills, family time, rest and contract negotiations. {grin}.

Halgar   Offline  -  Member  -  05-18-08 02:26 PM  -  10 years ago
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Captain Wayne said:

Podcasting an average of 16 songs on a show not in Creative Commons then it costs us $2.88 per pod x 1,000 listeners = $2,880 per show (for 1,000 downloads) x 52 weeks = $149,760.00 a year.

Does that mean that you could put your show in your .mp3 download store at three dollars apiece? I'd pay that.

--Scott
Bob Guest   Offline  -  Artist  -  05-14-08 01:55 PM  -  10 years ago
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I just figured it out.... It's so simple. Don't know why I didn't figure it out years ago.


Shhhh, don't tell anyone this, but I've just downloaded the last show (Politics) to my hard drive. I can't tell you how on this forum. You've got to figure this one out yourself. That's why I'm now an MP3 Music Pirate!
fm123   Offline  -  Participant  -  05-13-08 12:17 PM  -  10 years ago
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Isn't streaming when you can only listen and not download ?

Yes it is.

Shhhh, don't tell anyone this, but I've just downloaded the last show (Politics) to my hard drive. I can't tell you how on this forum. You've got to figure this one out yourself. That's why I'm now an MP3 Music Pirate!

Of course, I can always delete it when I'm done listening to it. LOL
artpaul   Offline  -  Artist  -  05-13-08 07:10 AM  -  10 years ago
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I'm a little confused about this:

Now that we are streaming and not podcast when I hit play it downloads into my iTunes where before when it was Podcast and I hit play it would only let me listen and not download.

Isn't streaming when you can only listen and not download ?
Bob Guest   Offline  -  Artist  -  05-10-08 12:30 AM  -  10 years ago
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If you can't get your web browser to handle the M3U stream, you might try saving the M3U to your hard drive and then loading it into your media player.

BTW... I did check out VLC and it does work as promised, although there is a little bit of a learning curve. (Mostly due to unclear documentation.)
karlap   Offline  -  Artist  -  05-09-08 04:30 PM  -  10 years ago
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I have removed the dead links from www.automaticpilot.org/mp3s/stream.html and will try to find an updated source of information on how to configure web browsers and music players to handle m3u streams
erdoc   Offline  -  Member  -  05-09-08 11:41 AM  -  10 years ago
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Should I mention that, by using VLC, you can save a download stream to a MPEG4 file (very rapidly, I should note) which is very nearly the same as the Captain's MP3 podcasts?

Probably not.

Loop   Offline  -  Member  -  05-09-08 12:18 AM  -  10 years ago
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We need someone like Iron man, get him good and drunk and tell him that the Music companies are using Iron Man Suit tech without his permission and he will destroy them.
ChicagoBoy   Offline  -  Member  -  05-08-08 11:27 PM  -  10 years ago
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Hint:

www.automaticpilot.org/mp3s/stream.html

That's all I'm going to say on this topic.

ChicagoBoy: How can I capture the stream so that I can upload it to my iPod and listen while I commute to/from work? I need a little insanity to keep me sane as I deal with traffic every day.
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Sadly, just about every informational link on that page redirects to dead links.

Please feel free to share your knowledge to
golf_lover44 at yahoo dot com.
Bob Guest   Offline  -  Artist  -  05-08-08 04:02 PM  -  10 years ago
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It works both ways though.

Some years ago a friend of mine released a song on cassette that somehow got played on a small station somewhere where nothing much ever happens, so they all gather at the gas station to watch the prices go up. So it happens that the PROs were auditing that out of the way station that day (that's the radio station, not the gas station).... and my friend got a cheque in the mail.... which took into account all the other stations that weren't polled.

I've never been so lucky... but I don't update my material with the PROs anymore anyway.

It's all just a turkey shoot.... which doesn't sound like such a bad idea. Perhaps they should just shoot the turkeys that run the PROs.
devospice   Offline  -  Artist  -  05-08-08 01:13 PM  -  10 years ago
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Just out of curiosity, with all of the money that is raised by these scumbag organizations, how much goes to the artists themselves?

Quite a bit, actually. The problem is their methods of keeping track of the songs that are played are archaic. Sure, in the 1950 before computers and the internet the only way to do it was to take a sampling of what a small number of radio stations play. That number is then multiplied by a factor to take into account the stations that weren't polled.

In 2008 when everything is computerized it would be very easy to get a list of every song played on every station during the past 3 months, but they don't do it. As a result artists who are played a lot get more money than they should and artists who are played a little (like us) get virtually nothing.

I called ASCAP a couple years ago when I got my statement and it said I had no plays. I called them with proof that Spam, which I registered with them, had been played during that time on Dr. Demento, and that Dr. Demento was carried on these stations at the time. As far as I was concerned that was proof that I had been played and they owed me money. Their response was basically "tough shit" because none of Dr. D's stations happened to have been polled during the time my song was played.

The system needs an overhaul.

And something needs to be done for podcasters.
davidtanny   Offline  -  Artist & D.J.  -  05-07-08 11:28 PM  -  10 years ago
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Thanks Captain for the good news.

Looks like the MMCZ can continue as it is under that name on the MMA.

grapevine-girl   Offline  -  Participant  -  05-07-08 11:20 PM  -  10 years ago
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Wonderful news Capt'n, as a new member (not yet a year old) but just now able to support the site as much as possible I'm glad that things are for the time being better and I am loooking forward to the new shows. Demented to the end be ye wench of this pirate ship. Thanks Wayne.

Wendy aka

grapevine-girl
Bob Guest   Offline  -  Artist  -  05-07-08 09:28 PM  -  10 years ago
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I guess I'll have to redesign my "Rev Up Your Downloaders" banner. Of the banners I created, that one took the most work, because of the handle on the iPod. I photographed the handle on my own gramophone and used that.

Good point on the banners - I'll clean them up. I also changed the Help page to talk about streaming instead of downloading.
incubus442   Offline  -  Member  -  05-07-08 06:48 PM  -  10 years ago
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How many here are sick of these music Nazi organizations such as BMI, ASCAP et all? Raising my hand, that's for sure!

Just out of curiosity, with all of the money that is raised by these scumbag organizations, how much goes to the artists themselves?

Keep up the good work Captain. I love the shows.

--> Mark in Rochester, NY
jammin DIA   Offline  -  Participant  -  05-07-08 02:55 PM  -  10 years ago
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Great news Wayne. We have missed you. Looking forward to the new shows. THANK YOU!!!
tedsdad   Offline  -  Member  -  05-07-08 02:55 PM  -  10 years ago
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Oh Captain, My Captain...
I'm glad this trip isn't done.

Arrrggg....we shall be pirates to the end....

Thanks for ALL your hard work, and number (and gut) crunching. My family and I await your next command.
Captain Wayne   Offline  -  Site Owner  -  05-07-08 02:45 PM  -  10 years ago
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Okay - number-running is done. I checked all 768 songs played on our shows this year, compared them to the site logs for the past two days and came up with the following:

About 5,000 songs per day were streamed.
Of those, 7.29% were ASCAP and 3.38% were BMI. So...

ASCAP: 364 songs a day x $0.0016 = $212.87 per year
BMI: 169 songs a day x $0.0012 = $74.04 per year
SoundExchange (both ASCAP & BMI): 533 songs a day x $0.0014 = $272.74 per year

So all are below their minimums - and no hits on SESAC so I'm dropping them.

The total annual fees for licensing will be $500+$288+$299 = $1,087 ($90.58 per month).

That is a number I can certainly work with. Given the donations and your recent ideas about fund-raising...

ALL MAD MUSIC ARCHIVE SHOWS WILL CONTINUE!!!

And, the site and shows will remain free (supported by your donations)!


I plan to do a litle something for donators too - I think a "Friends of The Mad Music Archive" page would be nice.


-- Captain Wayne

That is what is delaying this week's show. I want REAL numbers before I continue. I'm calculating the year-to-date as a measure of my annual costs - but to do that I have to look up all the songs played so far to see which society they belong to (ASCAP/BMI/SESAC).

I'll let you all know the numbers when I'm done.
Captain Wayne   Offline  -  Site Owner  -  05-07-08 02:36 PM  -  10 years ago
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Technically background music and bumpers are also licensed and the fees apply. However, the background music I use (mostly) is royalty-free. As for Madness, it is not cataloged with ASCAP or BMI (many of their songs are) so no fee.

Good point on the banners - I'll clean them up. I also changed the Help page to talk about streaming instead of downloading.

-- Dave AuJus

Will they charge you for songs used as bumper music (ie Madness) since you don't actually play the whole song? What about excerpts from comedy routines or drop-ins from movies? How would you calculate those?
Sussurus   Offline  -  Donator  -  05-07-08 01:52 PM  -  10 years ago
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I knew the Cap'n was jumping through hoops to get us the MMS, I just didn't know the hoops were on fire, being tossed from nose to nose of inebriated seals, and were made of nitroglycerin.

Hmm, time to throw some money Wayne's way.
acastofthousands   Offline  -  Artist  -  05-07-08 07:46 AM  -  10 years ago
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Wayne,

Fair enough! We know not to confuse you with the corporate legal sharks :)
Rev. Zack   Offline  -  Member  -  05-07-08 02:55 AM  -  10 years ago
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There's a podsafe music network. Lot's of comedy songs there and any artist can put their own song on the network. Thats where I get most of my music.
music.podshow.com

You will find most of your favorite comedy music artist there including The Funny Music Project.
davidtanny   Offline  -  Artist & D.J.  -  05-06-08 10:56 PM  -  10 years ago
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re: As for other podcasters - it's easy, just don't play anything outside Creative Commons - Then you pay nothing!

Anybody know of a Creative Commons search engine out there? Sounds like it would be too much work without an easy way to determine whether a song is covered by what or which or whom.

Marcus Tee   Offline  -  Participant & Donator  -  05-06-08 09:56 PM  -  10 years ago
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Wayne,
I want to thank you. I have been asking for answers to these questions for months and no one has been able to help. So all those broadcasts I erased were erased for nothing? That really burns me.
BTW: I'm sure glad you know what the heck you're doing. And I'm (no offense) glad I'm not in your shoes!

Marcus Tee
Dave AuJus   Offline  -  Artist & D.J.  -  05-06-08 01:10 PM  -  10 years ago
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Will they charge you for songs used as bumper music (ie Madness) since you don't actually play the whole song? What about excerpts from comedy routines or drop-ins from movies? How would you calculate those?

Also several banners (including mine) are no longer applicable and should probably be retired. ie Go-Go-Gadget iPod, Rev Up Your Downloaders, & Madness On An iPod.
Captain Wayne   Offline  -  Site Owner  -  05-06-08 12:47 PM  -  10 years ago
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Well, IT MIGHT BE that much - I'm still looking at the numbers (have the first 2 pages out of 15 done in my 2008 initial check).

So far no matches with SESAC so that might knock off the $116 for them per year.

As for other podcasters - it's easy, just don't play anything outside Creative Commons - Then you pay nothing!

I want to be able to play Weird Al, Allan Sherman, Monty Python, Adam Sandler, Barnes & Barnes (and others) - if that is the case then I have no choice - those are all ASCAP and therefore also SoundExchange.

fm123   Offline  -  Participant  -  05-06-08 12:03 PM  -  10 years ago
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Wow, that's over $100 per month just for license fees for the stream. Hardly even worth it, unless you are making enough to cover it.

OK, I will save the old shows that I have downloaded, but will not distribute them to anyone. They are for my personal listening only.

This whole matter is starting to get so complicated and expensive, that I bet many other podcasts and/or streams on the net are going to close down.
Captain Wayne   Offline  -  Site Owner  -  05-06-08 07:59 AM  -  10 years ago
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I know Live365 got to negotiate special terms with SoundExchange and the rest. I think I read that they had a $50,000.00 a year cap. Us small people have to pay the minimums (I guess I could try to negotiate, but I don't have the time or $).

Minimums:
SoundExchange (the "sound recording"): $0.0014 per performance,
$500.00/year minimum

ASCAP (the "musical work"): $0.0016 per performance, $288.00/year
minimum

BMI (the "musical work"): $0.00012 per performance, $299.00/year
minimum

SESAC (the "musical work"): $0.000634 per performance, $116.00/year
minimum

So: $500 + $288 + $299 + $116 = $1,203 per year minimum.

I have to keep track of every song and what their affiliation is, then calculate the amount I pay.

That is what is delaying this week's show. I want REAL numbers before I continue. I'm calculating the year-to-date as a measure of my annual costs - but to do that I have to look up all the songs played so far to see which society they belong to (ASCAP/BMI/SESAC).

I'll let you all know the numbers when I'm done.


-- nutcase

Wow. And I thought spending $500 a year for a dead365 stream was expensive.

Wayne, have you thought of removing some of the older episodes to help out with your streaming expenses?

Captain Wayne   Offline  -  Site Owner  -  05-06-08 07:45 AM  -  10 years ago
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Please try not to mis-interpret what I'm talking about - my comments have been related to my end, the generator of the show. You, as the consumer, have different rights.

I do recall that the music industry DID try to squash the recording of a radio show for personal use as copyright infringement. The court (either a Federal Curcuit Court or the Federal Supreme Court, I can't remember) said no - recording of broadcasts for personal use was legal as long as the recordings were not sold, distributed or re-broadcast. The RIAA didn't like it, but that's the law. So, recording a broadcast is 100% legal within those terms.

However, my side is more like this: it's okay to broadcast songs, just pay the artist their royalty for creating the entertainment that you're providing. But, don't make cassettes or CDs of your show and hand them out in the street or at your next shopping mall grand opening (that's like Podcasting). Streaming is ephemeral, podcasting is physical. From my side Streaming is playiing (which you can record), podcasting is distributing a copy of the song and putting it on someone else's computer.

Marcus Tee   Offline  -  Participant & Donator  -  05-06-08 04:42 AM  -  10 years ago
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This all goes back to some questions I have had and posted in other threads.
The industry has apparently squashed the sales and/or manufacture of MP3 players that record and have an FM radio. I would surmise that was because people were recording FM broadcasts and (in the 'suit's' minds) not buying the CDs. Not to mention, again, the Digital TV thing that's coming.

Before their even was an internet, everyone I knew, who listened to Demento on the radio, recorded it as it was being broadcast. (Probably half of it was unavailable to buy anyway.) (Is that illegal to do now?)
Same went with TV. we recorded shows on VCRs and no one thought anything of it. (Is that also illegal to do now?)
So, now, in one fell swoop, the laws have changed and nothing is legal anymore?
Does anyone know what law(s) was (were) passed that made everything illegal? Why was no one notified? Why did all this happen without a word to the public, who could be breaking those very laws (without their knowledge) and face charges because "ignorance of the law is no excuse" ?
Man, this world is going to heck in a hand basket.

Marcus Tee
davidtanny   Offline  -  Artist & D.J.  -  05-06-08 12:13 AM  -  10 years ago
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Wow. And I thought spending $500 a year for a dead365 stream was expensive.

Wayne, have you thought of removing some of the older episodes to help out with your streaming expenses?

fm123   Offline  -  Participant  -  05-06-08 12:03 AM  -  10 years ago
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After reading what the Capt. has mentioned, I will only listen to the stream one time for each new upcoming show.

I will NOT bother to try to capture the show and save it. I wouldn't want anyone, including myself to get into any kind of legal problems.

I do have the first 111 MMS on my hard drive. Does this mean I need to delete those files?
Captain Wayne   Offline  -  Site Owner  -  05-05-08 09:16 PM  -  10 years ago
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Yeah, me too. After a few tips and HOURS of reading through (and translating into plain english) the Title 17 copyright laws, the document Al mentioned and the license agreements with ASCAP, BMI, SESAC and now SoundExchange there was a big difference between streaming and podcasting (allowing downloads). Streaming in in the neighborhood of $0.003 per song streamed (items not in Creative Commons). For a podcast the same song is more like $0.18 per download - that is after you negotiate with the record label for the rights to begin with. That's 60 times as much as a stream. And, you have to contact every record label and license every song you want to podcast - before you can podcast it!

Podcasting an average of 16 songs on a show not in Creative Commons then it costs us $2.88 per pod x 1,000 listeners = $2,880 per show (for 1,000 downloads) x 52 weeks = $149,760.00 a year.

Streaming is more like $48.00 per show (for 1,000 streams) x 52 weeks = $2,496.00 a year. (and we don't have to contact the labels at all - just supply the playlists and stream counts.)

The real bottom line here is we want to 100% legal and fair. But there are limits to what we can supply on a very small budget. We are truely grateful for every donation - but they only total to 1/4 of that Streaming price. And forget the bandwidth costs!

---

...I thought those expensive licenses covered all the legalities. Besides, I would have thought that much of what you play is either covered by the Creative Commons license...
pdx-dj1   Offline  -  Participant  -  05-05-08 08:28 PM  -  10 years ago
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Here, here! Bless your black little hearty, Val!

*Sigh* This all would be easier to bear if only the artists actually were rightfully compensated for their work, but so few of them are. The PRO's are actually little more than gangsters, squeezing the smaller enterprises for shake down money, whilst the big guys get payola.

I am so looking forward to the end of the music business as we know it...
pdx-dj1   Offline  -  Participant  -  05-05-08 08:23 PM  -  10 years ago
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"Due to the costs and legalities of preparing a podcast of your favorite demented dittys we are forced to switch the show to a 'listen online' only format."

Shakespeare was right about lawyers. I thought those expensive licenses covered all the legalities. Besides, I would have thought that much of what you play is either covered by the Creative Commons license or too old and/or obscure for anyone to care. This is gonna kill your bandwidth!
Bob Guest   Offline  -  Artist  -  05-05-08 02:30 PM  -  10 years ago
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I think the idea of a show is to present the music so you can decide to go out and buy the CD.... or MP3 downloads.

After giving it some thought, I have decided for myself that I would not try to record or otherwise capture the streams. Up to this point I have downloaded all the shows but I very rarely ever go back and listen to old shows. It's certainly not worth (to me) the trouble of trying to record anything being streamed, since I would have to be there to monitor it anyway... and I'm only likely to listen to it once or twice.

The inconvenience of being tied to my computer is a minor one, which I can adapt to.

The number of MP3s I have available to load on my MP3 player (aside from shows) is great enough that I can set it to random play and have an enjoyable experience.... and know that what I have is 100% legal.

Perhaps the better thing to do is to support Wayne's effort by buying more MP3s. (I know the money goes to the artists, but the action would indicate that we really do want to support the music.)
Eric Haines   Offline  -  Artist  -  05-05-08 02:03 PM  -  10 years ago
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While I don't condone recording streaming broadcasts because I don't know nothin' about what the legal stuff is these days, if you were desperate to generate an mp3 of, say, some audio you recorded on tape of your kids, you could exploit some simple facts about sound.
Anything that comes out of a speaker (or speaker jack) can be recorded with a microphone (or microphone jack) with the appropriate patch cable (1/8" to 1/8 " stereo, available at Radio Shack) and simple recording program, like the free and open-source Audacity. Many sound programs like Audacity allow the export of recordings as an mp3.
karlap   Offline  -  Artist  -  05-05-08 01:33 PM  -  10 years ago
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Hint:

www.automaticpilot.org/mp3s/stream.html

That's all I'm going to say on this topic.

ChicagoBoy: How can I capture the stream so that I can upload it to my iPod and listen while I commute to/from work? I need a little insanity to keep me sane as I deal with traffic every day.
ChicagoBoy   Offline  -  Member  -  05-05-08 12:26 PM  -  10 years ago
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How can I capture the stream so that I can upload it to my iPod and listen while I commute to/from work? I need a little insanity to keep me sane as I deal with traffic every day.
PTdolphins66   Offline  -  Member  -  05-05-08 09:54 AM  -  10 years ago
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Thank you ******** lawyers. I opetare on a 7 year old PC and get the internet via dial-up. I stream the Dr. show on 32/40kbps.

Captain yiu were a lifesaver when I couldn't get on-line few weeks because the phone line blew and had to wait for several days for the box on the pole to be repaired.

It going to be tight for me.
Captain Wayne   Offline  -  Site Owner  -  05-05-08 09:10 AM  -  10 years ago
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I don't just blame the PRO's, I blame the record companies as well. They are the ones offering disproportionate awards to sign artists to contracts. They give away the store hoping to sign the next big thing and in the process take compensation away from the smaller groups.
Haul-E-Weird   Offline  -  Artist  -  05-05-08 02:54 AM  -  10 years ago
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*Sigh* This all would be easier to bear if only the artists actually were rightfully compensated for their work, but so few of them are. The PRO's are actually little more than gangsters, squeezing the smaller enterprises for shake down money, whilst the big guys get payola.

I am so looking forward to the end of the music business as we know it...
Captain Wayne   Offline  -  Site Owner  -  05-03-08 11:12 PM  -  10 years ago
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Basically, yes - all shows will be stream only unless they are 100% "podsafe" - that is: all Creative Commons or where explicit permission has been received form both the performer and the original author of the lyrics/music.

Normally the author of the lyrics/music *is* the performer on Creative Commons licensed music. However, "parody" may use the music of some other author, and then as long as it's "parody" you are probably okay - but that's kind of a gray area.
davidtanny   Offline  -  Artist & D.J.  -  05-03-08 10:35 PM  -  10 years ago
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I understand your limited budget situation. I guess all of the shows here will be streaming only including mine.

This also means that the RSS feeds that link to the downloads will also be discontinued as well?

fm123   Offline  -  Participant  -  05-03-08 10:06 PM  -  10 years ago
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Will this also be in effect for the other shows posted here?
Captain Wayne   Offline  -  Site Owner  -  05-03-08 08:00 PM  -  10 years ago
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Yes!

You can listen any time you want - as many times as you want!
HalfBee   Offline  -  Participant  -  05-03-08 07:53 PM  -  10 years ago
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Is the streaming "on-demand"?
Meaning being able to listen to it at a convient time (or over and over again if needed)...
Captain Wayne   Offline  -  Site Owner  -  05-03-08 07:17 PM  -  10 years ago
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The Mad Music Show goes "streaming only" beginning with this week's show!

Due to the costs and legalities of preparing a podcast of your favorite demented dittys we are forced to switch the show to a "listen online" only format.

The show will still be free - you just won't be able to download it any longer. We're sorry it has come to this - thank the lawyers out there. Don't get me wrong, I think the artists and writers should be compensated for their efforts, however, there is a limit of what I can do with a free show and a very limited budget.

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